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However, in another Calumed publication, Medicinehorse is quoted, in an article dated Oct. 27, 2006, with the remark that according to Crow customs, women did not pierce during the Sundance.<ref>P. Weigle, B. Strohschein: Morgenlandwelten. Festschrift zum 60. Geburtstag von Dieter Jarzombek und zum 20jährigen Bestehen von Calumed e.V. p. 213</ref> The same publication carries a text written by Medicinehorse in which he states:<br>
 
However, in another Calumed publication, Medicinehorse is quoted, in an article dated Oct. 27, 2006, with the remark that according to Crow customs, women did not pierce during the Sundance.<ref>P. Weigle, B. Strohschein: Morgenlandwelten. Festschrift zum 60. Geburtstag von Dieter Jarzombek und zum 20jährigen Bestehen von Calumed e.V. p. 213</ref> The same publication carries a text written by Medicinehorse in which he states:<br>
''"We, the Apsalooke, have a Sundance every year. We still use a buffalo skull which Dieter [Jarzombek] and the group paid. Dieter sends a group every year. Usually, this group is in the Medicinehorse Sundance under the guidance of my friend, Tom Erbskorn, a Pipe Carrier"''.<ref>P. Weigle, B. Strohschein: Morgenlandwelten. Festschrift zum 60. Geburtstag von Dieter Jarzombek und zum 20jährigen Bestehen von Calumed e.V. p. 286</ref>
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:''"We, the Apsalooke, have a Sundance every year. We still use a buffalo skull which Dieter [Jarzombek] and the group paid. Dieter sends a group every year. Usually, this group is in the Medicinehorse Sundance under the guidance of my friend, Tom Erbskorn, a Pipe Carrier"''.<ref>P. Weigle, B. Strohschein: Morgenlandwelten. Festschrift zum 60. Geburtstag von Dieter Jarzombek und zum 20jährigen Bestehen von Calumed e.V. p. 286</ref><br>
 
As this book presumably was published for the 60th birthday of the Calumed founder, i.e. in 2007, this indicates a longterm and continuous cooperation from 1990 or probably earlier to at least 2007. The title used in the German language publication is indeed the equivalent of "Pipe Carrier", however, this may be due to an error in translation on the part of the editors. The actual duties of such a traditional position are in considerable conflict with a nine-to-five job, even though the status of an alleged pipe carrier is in rather inflationary use in the Newage scene.
 
As this book presumably was published for the 60th birthday of the Calumed founder, i.e. in 2007, this indicates a longterm and continuous cooperation from 1990 or probably earlier to at least 2007. The title used in the German language publication is indeed the equivalent of "Pipe Carrier", however, this may be due to an error in translation on the part of the editors. The actual duties of such a traditional position are in considerable conflict with a nine-to-five job, even though the status of an alleged pipe carrier is in rather inflationary use in the Newage scene.
  
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