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'''HHO''' (also ''Browns Gas'', ''Browngas'', ''Brown's Gas'', ''Braun Gas'', ''Green Gas'', ''Rhode's Gas'', ''Dirty Hydrogen'' or ''Watergas'') is a gaseous explosive mix of hydrogen and oxygen, which is also called ''Knallgas''. [[Pseudoscientific]] circles claim that the mixture has special properties and avoid the name ''Knallgas'' in favor of names like ''Browns Gas'' or ''HHO''. ''Browns Gas'' traces back to the Australian electro engineer and inventor Yull Brown(born 1922 as Ilya Velbov, Bulgarien - 1998) who constructed in the 1960s several devices for electrolysis and welding with Knallgas.<ref> U.S. Patent 4,014,777. Mar 29, 1977</ref> Yull Brown is often wrongly credited with a doctor of professorial title.

==Characteristics==
[[image:knallgas.jpg|400px|Commercial (serious) electrolysis devices for hydrogen production|thumb]]
Knallgas can be won through electrolysis of water using electrical energy. In principal, electricity is just conducted in water, whose conductivity has been increased by adding acid or a base. Knallgas can also develop from water at very high temperatures.

Knallgas is very explosive. At ignition water(and some hydrogen peroxide) is again created from hydrogen and oxygen(). To ignite under atmospheric pressure the ratio of hydrogen has to be between 4 and 77%. The fiercest reaction happens at a ratio of 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen.

==Claimed wonder characteristics==
[[Image: Hho_spritsparkit.jpg|thumb|Elektrolysis adaption kit for the car to "save gas"]]
In some pseudoscientific circles the oxygen/hydrogen mix, called ''Browns Gas'' or HHO, is a gas with peculiar properties. It is often claimed that its energy is much higher than of normal Knallgas. No serious explanation is given.

HHO is a topic for supporters of [[Free Energy|free energy]]. They hold the false opinion that combustion of Knallgas creates more energy than is necessary for its creation.<ref>Zitat HHO-Forum: ''Der Einsatz um Wasserstoff zu erzeugen ist erheblich geringer, als die Energie die bei der Reaktion entsteht. Man muss nur die richtige Reaktion anstoßen und dann entsprechend nutzen.''</ref> Because of that a combined electrolysis with following combustion may be used as an energy source. Research done in USA showed that such an onboard water electrolysis doesn't make sense since the fuel consumption increases, it does not decrease as claimed.<ref>[http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4276846.html?series=19 Popular Mechanics, Artikel ''Water-Powered Cars: Hydrogen Electrolyzer Mod Can't Up MPGs'']</ref><ref>[http://www.wyff4.com/news/17036761/detail.html Greenville News Looking Out 4 You: ''Water 4 Gas Fails to Boost Mileage'']</ref><ref>[http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/CampbellLive/tabid/367/articleID/64717/cat/84/Default.aspx Hydrogen conversion claims put to the test]</ref><ref>http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/07/water4gas.html Consumer Affairs Water4gas</ref>

Several fraudulent [[Water-fuelled car]] concepts are based on this principle. The offered devices don't allow to retool a car fully to operate with water, but a considerable amount of fuel is said to be saved. Several companies offer mostly in USA electrolysis sets under labels like ''HHO Fuel Saver'' or ''Hydroxy Booster'', which are allegedly powered by current from the car battery. The created Knallgas is used as extra fuel for the engine. A German vendor of such products is the Jülicher [[Clean World Energies GmbH]].

As already noted by Brown, ''Browns Gas'' is claimed to be especially useful for welding. The well known hydrogen-welding has almost no practical appliance since oxyacetylene and electrogas or Electroslag welding have various advantages.

''Browns Gas'' is claimed to enable a hypothetical [[transmutation]] of atoms that may be used to decontaminate radioactive waste.<ref>http://pacenet.homestead.com/Transmutation.html</ref> With a ''Browns-Gas''-flame radioactive substances are to be fused with metals, which would decrease radioactivity by 95%.<ref>[[Marco Bischof]], Thorsten Ludwig, Andreas Manthey (2005): Zukunftstechnologien für nachhaltige Entwicklung: Unkonventionelle Ansätze zur Energiegewinnung und Aktivierung biologischer Prozesse. Bundesministerium für wirtschaftliche Zusammenarbeit und Entwicklung BMZ, Forschungsbericht E 5001-15, Berlin. See also: [[Deutsche Vereinigung für Raumenergie]]</ref>

==Conspiracy theories==
In connection with alleged special properties of HHO it is also often claimed that combined electrolysis and combustion are so simple an brilliant that nobody got the idea to use Knallgas as solution for the worldwide energy deficit. It is claimed that the principle is too simple to be of commercial interest. Usage of HHO has not been implemented because of low degrees of efficiency but due to the resistance of powerful corporations which repress in the sense of a conspiracy its use. Inventors and researchers of HHO have to do their work in secrecy.

==Economy and energy balance==
It is currently(2011) economically better to win hydrogen from petroleum or petroleum gas and oxygen than use electrolysis.

* The degree of efficiency of electrolysis of water to create hydrogen and oxygen is currently at 57%<ref>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserstoffherstellung#Elektrolyse_von_Wasser</ref>, some energy is lost as heat. Special electrolysis units may reach efficiencies of 70% or 80% at high temperatures and with addition of potassium hydroxide. Research is done with high temperature steam electrolysis (at 800–1000°C) at solid electrolyte. To create 1 m<sup>3</sup> hydrogen in modern facilities needs about 4,3–4,9 kWh electrical energy.
* Efficiency of Knallgas-reactions is also not 100% but just about 70%.
* Transforming energy of Knallgas explosions to kinetic energy in an engine has an efficiency of about 30%. Besides of that, problems are caused by the higher combustion temperature of Knallgas compared to normal fuel and a higher emission of nitrogen oxides.<ref>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserstoffwirtschaft</ref>
* The retooling kits to "save energy" for cars decrease efficiency another time, since the electrical energy is drawn lossy from alternator and in turn from the engine from regular fuel. Noteworthy amounts of HHO cannot be created this way due to the limitation of the electrical energy. Saving it in pressure tanks to have more gas available if needed would cause a further decrease in efficiency.

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==Weblinks==
* http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~ltemgoua/chemie/Knallgas.html
* http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektrolyse
* http://evolution.loremo.com/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,138/func,view/id,19425/catid,23/limit,30/limitstart,90/lang,de/

==References==
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 [[Image: Yull_brown.jpg|thumb|Yull Brown]]
-'''HHO''' (also ''Browns Gas'', ''Browngas'', ''Brown's Gas'', ''Braun Gas'', ''Green Gas'', ''Rhode's Gas'', ''Dirty Hydrogen'' or ''Watergas'') is a gaseous explosive mix of hydrogen and oxygen, which is also called ''oxyhydrogen'' or ''Knallgas''. [[Pseudoscience|Pseudoscientific]] circles claim that the mixture has special properties and avoid the name ''oxyhydrogen'' in favor of names like ''Browns Gas'' or ''HHO''. ''Browns Gas'' traces back to the Australian electro engineer and inventor Yull Brown(born 1922 as Ilya Velbov, Bulgaria - 1998) who constructed several devices for electrolysis and welding with oxyhydrogen in the 1960s.<ref> U.S. Patent 4,014,777. Mar 29, 1977</ref> Yull Brown is often credited wrongly with a doctor of professorial title. However, so called Brown's gas is the same mysterious "Orgon" gas used by William Reich to further his aims of discovering a healing curative. In fact, Reich's discovery was no more than the utilisation of the initial discovery of a lesser know scientist called Franciszek Rychnowski who called his discovery "Eteroid" or "Etheroid", which also claimed vast healing and curative powers.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciszek_Rychnowski
+'''HHO''' (also ''Browns Gas'', ''Browngas'', ''Brown's Gas'', ''Braun Gas'', ''Green Gas'', ''Rhode's Gas'', ''Dirty Hydrogen'' or ''Watergas'') is a gaseous explosive mix of hydrogen and oxygen, which is also called ''oxyhydrogen'' or ''Knallgas''. [[Pseudoscience|Pseudoscientific]] circles claim that the mixture has special properties and avoid the name ''oxyhydrogen'' in favor of names like ''Browns Gas'' or ''HHO''. ''Browns Gas'' traces back to the Australian electro engineer and inventor Yull Brown(born 1922 as Ilya Velbov, Bulgaria - 1998) who constructed several devices for electrolysis and welding with oxyhydrogen in the 1960s.<ref> U.S. Patent 4,014,777. Mar 29, 1977</ref> Yull Brown is often credited wrongly with a doctor of professorial title.
 ==Characteristics==

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 [[Image: Yull_brown.jpg|thumb|Yull Brown]]
-'''HHO''' (also ''Browns Gas'', ''Browngas'', ''Brown's Gas'', ''Braun Gas'', ''Green Gas'', ''Rhode's Gas'', ''Dirty Hydrogen'' or ''Watergas'') is a gaseous explosive mix of hydrogen and oxygen, which is also called ''oxyhydrogen'' or ''Knallgas''. [[Pseudoscience|Pseudoscientific]] circles claim that the mixture has special properties and avoid the name ''oxyhydrogen'' in favor of names like ''Browns Gas'' or ''HHO''. ''Browns Gas'' traces back to the Australian electro engineer and inventor Yull Brown(born 1922 as Ilya Velbov, Bulgaria - 1998) who constructed several devices for electrolysis and welding with oxyhydrogen in the 1960s.<ref> U.S. Patent 4,014,777. Mar 29, 1977</ref> Yull Brown is often credited wrongly with a doctor of professorial title.
+'''HHO''' (also ''Browns Gas'', ''Browngas'', ''Brown's Gas'', ''Braun Gas'', ''Green Gas'', ''Rhode's Gas'', ''Dirty Hydrogen'' or ''Watergas'') is a gaseous explosive mix of hydrogen and oxygen, which is also called ''oxyhydrogen'' or ''Knallgas''. [[Pseudoscience|Pseudoscientific]] circles claim that the mixture has special properties and avoid the name ''oxyhydrogen'' in favor of names like ''Browns Gas'' or ''HHO''. ''Browns Gas'' traces back to the Australian electro engineer and inventor Yull Brown(born 1922 as Ilya Velbov, Bulgaria - 1998) who constructed several devices for electrolysis and welding with oxyhydrogen in the 1960s.<ref> U.S. Patent 4,014,777. Mar 29, 1977</ref> Yull Brown is often credited wrongly with a doctor of professorial title. However, so called Brown's gas is the same mysterious "Orgon" gas used by William Reich to further his aims of discovering a healing curative. In fact, Reich's discovery was no more than the utilisation of the initial discovery of a lesser know scientist called Franciszek Rychnowski who called his discovery "Eteroid" or "Etheroid", which also claimed vast healing and curative powers.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciszek_Rychnowski
 ==Characteristics==

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 [[Image: Yull_brown.jpg|thumb|Yull Brown]]
-'''HHO''' (also ''Browns Gas'', ''Browngas'', ''Brown's Gas'', ''Braun Gas'', ''Green Gas'', ''Rhode's Gas'', ''Dirty Hydrogen'' or ''Watergas'') is a gaseous explosive mix of hydrogen and oxygen, which is also called ''oxyhydrogen'' or ''Knallgas''. [[Pseudoscience|Pseudoscientific]] circles claim that the mixture has special properties and avoid the name ''oxyhydrogen'' in favor of names like ''Browns Gas'' or ''HHO''. ''Browns Gas'' traces back to the Australian electro engineer and inventor Yull Brown(born 1922 as Ilya Velbov, Bulgarien - 1998) who constructed several devices for electrolysis and welding with oxyhydrogen in the 1960s.<ref> U.S. Patent 4,014,777. Mar 29, 1977</ref> Yull Brown is often wrongly credited with a doctor of professorial title.
+'''HHO''' (also ''Browns Gas'', ''Browngas'', ''Brown's Gas'', ''Braun Gas'', ''Green Gas'', ''Rhode's Gas'', ''Dirty Hydrogen'' or ''Watergas'') is a gaseous explosive mix of hydrogen and oxygen, which is also called ''oxyhydrogen'' or ''Knallgas''. [[Pseudoscience|Pseudoscientific]] circles claim that the mixture has special properties and avoid the name ''oxyhydrogen'' in favor of names like ''Browns Gas'' or ''HHO''. ''Browns Gas'' traces back to the Australian electro engineer and inventor Yull Brown(born 1922 as Ilya Velbov, Bulgaria - 1998) who constructed several devices for electrolysis and welding with oxyhydrogen in the 1960s.<ref> U.S. Patent 4,014,777. Mar 29, 1977</ref> Yull Brown is often credited wrongly with a doctor of professorial title.
 ==Characteristics==
 [[image:knallgas.jpg|400px|Commercial (serious) electrolysis devices for hydrogen production|thumb]]
-Oxyhydrogen can be won through electrolysis of water using electrical energy. In principle, electricity is just conducted through water, whose conductivity has been increased by adding acid or a base. Oxyhydrogen can also develop at very high temperatures from water.
+Oxyhydrogen can be won through electrolysis of water with electrical energy. In principle, electricity is just conducted through water, whose conductivity has been increased by adding some acid or a base. Oxyhydrogen can also develop at very high temperatures directly from water.
-Oxyhydrogen is very explosive. At ignition water(and some hydrogen peroxide) is again created from hydrogen and oxygen. To ignite under atmospheric pressure the ratio of hydrogen has to be between 4&nbsp;and&nbsp;77%. The fiercest reaction happens at a ratio of 2 hydrogen to 1 oxygen.
+Oxyhydrogen is explosive. At ignition water(and some hydrogen peroxide) is again created from hydrogen and oxygen. To ignite under atmospheric pressure the ratio of hydrogen has to be between 4&nbsp;and&nbsp;77%. The fiercest reaction happens at a ratio of 2 hydrogen to 1 oxygen.
 ==Claimed wonder characteristics==
-[[Image: Hho_spritsparkit.jpg|thumb|Elektrolysis adaption kit for the car to "save gas"]]
+[[Image: Hho_spritsparkit.jpg|thumb|Elektrolysis adaption kit for cars to "save gas"]]
-In some pseudoscientific  circles the oxygen/hydrogen mix, called ''Browns Gas'' or HHO, is said to have peculiar properties. It is often claimed that it holds more energy than normal oxyhydrogen . No serious explanation is given for that.
+In some pseudoscientific  circles the oxygen/hydrogen mix, called ''Browns Gas'' or HHO, is said to have peculiar properties. It is often claimed that it holds more energy than normal oxyhydrogen. No serious explanation is given for that.
-HHO is a topic for supporters of [[Free Energy|free energy]]. They hold the false opinion that combustion of oxyhydrogen creates more energy as necessary for its creation.<ref>Citation HHO-Forum: ''The needed amount of energy to create hydrogen is much less than the energy that is freed at reaction. It is just necessary to initiate the right reaction and use it appropriately.''</ref> They reason that a combined electrolysis with following combustion may be used as an energy source. Research done in USA showed that such an onboard water electrolysis doesn't make sense since the fuel consumption increases, it does not decrease as claimed.<ref>[http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4276846.html?series=19 Popular Mechanics, Artikel ''Water-Powered Cars: Hydrogen Electrolyzer Mod Can't Up MPGs'']</ref><ref>[http://www.wyff4.com/news/17036761/detail.html Greenville News Looking Out 4 You: ''Water 4 Gas Fails to Boost Mileage'']</ref><ref>[http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/CampbellLive/tabid/367/articleID/64717/cat/84/Default.aspx  Hydrogen conversion claims put to the test]</ref><ref>http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/07/water4gas.html Consumer Affairs Water4gas</ref>
+HHO is also a topic for supporters of [[Free Energy|free energy]]. They hold the false opinion that combustion of oxyhydrogen creates more energy as necessary for its creation.<ref>Citation HHO-Forum: ''The needed amount of energy to create hydrogen is much less than the energy that is freed at reaction. It is just necessary to initiate the right reaction and use it appropriately.''</ref> They reason that a combination of electrolysis and subsequent combustion may be used as an energy source. Research done in USA showed that such an onboard water electrolysis doesn't make sense since fuel consumption increases and does not decrease as claimed.<ref>[http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4276846.html?series=19 Popular Mechanics, article ''Water-Powered Cars: Hydrogen Electrolyzer Mod Can't Up MPGs'']</ref><ref>[http://www.wyff4.com/news/17036761/detail.html Greenville News Looking Out 4 You: ''Water 4 Gas Fails to Boost Mileage'']</ref><ref>[http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/CampbellLive/tabid/367/articleID/64717/cat/84/Default.aspx  Hydrogen conversion claims put to the test]</ref>
-Several fraudulent [[Water-fuelled car]] concepts are based on this principle. The offered devices don't allow to retool a car to operate only with water, but a considerable amount of fuel is said to be saved. Several companies, mostly in USA, offer electrolysis sets under labels like ''HHO Fuel Saver'' or ''Hydroxy Booster'', which are allegedly powered by current from the car battery. The created oxyhydrogen is then used as extra fuel for the engine. A German vendor of such products is the Jülicher [[Clean World Energies GmbH]].
+Several fraudulent [[Water-fuelled car]] concepts are based on this principle. The offered devices don't allow to retool a car to operate just with water, but it is claimed that a considerable amount of fuel can be saved. Several companies, mostly in USA, offer electrolysis sets under labels like ''HHO Fuel Saver'' or ''Hydroxy Booster'' powered by current from the car battery. The created oxyhydrogen is then used as extra fuel for the engine. A German vendor of such products is the Jülicher [[Clean World Energies GmbH]].
-Supporters of ''Browns Gas'' and Brown himself also claim that it is especially useful for welding. They talk about the well known technique of hydrogen-welding but it has almost no practical appliance since oxyacetylene and electrogas or electroslag welding have various advantages.
+Supporters of ''Browns Gas'' and Brown himself also claim that it is especially useful for welding. They talk about the well known technique of hydrogen-welding which has almost no practical appliance because oxyacetylene and electrogas or electroslag welding have various advantages.
 ''Browns Gas'' is claimed to enable a hypothetical [[transmutation]] of atoms that may be used to decontaminate radioactive waste.<ref>http://pacenet.homestead.com/Transmutation.html</ref> With a ''Browns-Gas''-flame radioactive substances are to be fused with metals, which would decrease radioactivity by 95%.<ref>[[Marco Bischof]], Thorsten Ludwig, Andreas Manthey (2005): Zukunftstechnologien für nachhaltige Entwicklung: Unkonventionelle Ansätze zur Energiegewinnung und Aktivierung biologischer Prozesse. Bundesministerium für wirtschaftliche Zusammenarbeit und Entwicklung BMZ, Forschungsbericht E&nbsp;5001-15, Berlin. See also: [[Deutsche Vereinigung für Raumenergie]]</ref>
 ==Conspiracy theories==
-In connection with alleged special properties of HHO it is also often claimed that combined electrolysis and combustion are so simple an brilliant that everybody overlooked the idea to use oxyhydrogen to solve worldwide energy needs. It is claimed that the principle is too simple to be of commercial interest. Usage of HHO has not been implemented because of low degrees of efficiency but due to the resistance of powerful corporations which repress its use through a conspiracy. Inventors and researchers of HHO have to do their work in secrecy.
+In connection with alleged special properties of HHO it is also often claimed that the combination of electrolysis and combustion is so simple and brilliant that everybody just overlooked the idea to use oxyhydrogen to solve worldwide energy needs. It is claimed that the principle is too simple to be of commercial interest. Usage of HHO has not been implemented because it is inefficient but due to the resistance of powerful corporations which repress its use through a conspiracy. Inventors and researchers of HHO have to do their work in secrecy.
 ==Economy and energy balance==
 It is currently(2011) economically better to win hydrogen from petroleum or petroleum gas and oxygen than using electrolysis.
-* The degree of efficiency of electrolysis of water to create hydrogen and oxygen is currently at 57%<ref>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserstoffherstellung#Elektrolyse_von_Wasser</ref>, some energy is lost as heat. Special electrolysis units may reach efficiencies of 70% or 80% at high temperatures and with addition of potassium hydroxide. Research is done with high temperature steam electrolysis (at 800–1000°C) at solid electrolyte. To create 1&nbsp;m<sup>3</sup> hydrogen in modern facilities needs about 4,3–4,9&nbsp;kWh electrical energy.
+* The degree of efficiency of electrolysis of water to create hydrogen and oxygen is currently at 57%<ref>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserstoffherstellung#Elektrolyse_von_Wasser</ref>, some energy is lost as heat. Special electrolysis units may reach efficiencies of 70% or 80% at high temperatures with addition of potassium hydroxide. Research is done with high temperature steam electrolysis (at 800–1000°C) on solid electrolytes. To create 1&nbsp;m<sup>3</sup> hydrogen in modern facilities needs about 4,3–4,9&nbsp;kWh electrical energy.
 * Efficiency of oxyhydrogen-reactions is also not 100% but just about 70%.
-* Transforming energy of Knallgas explosions to kinetic energy in an engine has an efficiency of about 30%. Besides of that, problems are caused by the higher combustion temperature of Knallgas compared to normal fuel and a higher emission of  nitrogen oxides.<ref>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserstoffwirtschaft</ref>
+* Transforming oxyhydrogen explosions to kinetic energy in an engine has an efficiency of about 30%. Other than that, further problems are caused by a higher combustion temperature of oxyhydrogen compared to normal fuel and higher emission of  nitrogen oxides.<ref>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserstoffwirtschaft</ref>
-* The retooling kits to "save energy" for cars decrease efficiency another time, since the electrical energy is drawn lossy from alternator and in turn from the engine from regular fuel. Noteworthy amounts of HHO cannot be created this way due to the limitation of the electrical energy. Saving it in pressure tanks to have more gas available if needed would cause a further decrease in efficiency.
+* The retooling kits to "save energy" for cars decrease efficiency yet another time, since electrical energy is drawn lossy from the alternator and in turn from the engine and regular fuel. Noteworthy amounts of HHO cannot be created this way due to the limitation of the electrical energy. Saving it in pressure tanks to have more gas available when needed would cause a further decrease in efficiency.
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